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1.  Mike Scott  
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Von: m...@moose.demon.co.uk (Mike Scott)
Datum: 1996/08/01
Betreff: Re: Farpoint 1996

On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:57:16 -0400, FARPOINT <sf...@erols.com> wrote:
>FARPOINT 96

>The Convention Where YOU are the Guest of Honor!

Does that mean that you're paying my membership, hotel room and
travelling expenses? If not, what *does* it mean?

--
Mike Scott
m...@moose.demon.co.uk


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2.  FARPOINT  
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FARPOINT 96

The Convention Where YOU are the Guest of Honor!

Visit our website at http://home.erols.com/sfcon

Special Guests:

Tim Russ ("Mr. Tuvok" - Star Trek: Voyager)
Michael Ansara ("Kang" - Star Trek, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)
Mark Goddard ("Major Don West" - Lost in Space)

Also Starring:

Allan Asherman ("Star Trek Compendium")
Tim DeHaas (Screenwriter - ST:TNG, Voyager; Writer, Babylon 5 Comic)
Lolita Fatjo (Script Coordinator - ST:DS9, Voyager, ST: "Borg")
Mojo (Technical Director - Babylon 5)
Howard Weinstein (Author - ST novels and Comics)

October 4, 5 & 6, 1996

Marriott's Hunt Valley Inn, Hunt Valley Maryland
Call (410) 785-7000 for reservations.  Please call before September 1,
1996, and be sure to mention Farpoint.

No Mail-In registrations after September 15, 1996.  Membership is limited
to 1500 per day.  

An interpreter is available for persons with hearing disabilities.

Farpoint: It's NOT just another Trek Con!

Of course, we have many wonderful programs about Trek and actor and
writer guests who are part of the phenomenon that started it all.  But
wait! There's more!

Are you a fan of:

Babylon 5?
We have Mojo, special effects wizard from the hit series, as well as Tim
DeHaas, celebrated writer of the comic adaptations for DC Comics, and
Arne Starr, former Trek comic artist and B5 SuperFan.  And that's not
all! Last year, the audience spent an hour on the phone with B5's creator
J. Michael Straczynski and star Michael O'Hare.  We'll be live with MORE
suprise B5 phone-ins this year!

The X-Files?
Cheap Treks will present "Cheap Treks Files: This Way to the Great
Egress," a parody of TV's supernatural sensation.  Also we'll have a
panel on UFOs: Fact or Fiction.

Lost In Space?
In case you missed his picture on the front of our flier, we'll be joined
this year by Mark (Major Don West) Goddard.  Mark will be signing
autographs and posing for pictures ALL WEEKEND*, and will, of course,
answer questions and share his memories of the Cult-TV favorite.  We'll
also be screening the uncut Lost in Space episode "The Challenge," with
guest star Michael Ansara.

Dark Shadows? Beauty and the Beast? Dr. Who? Space: 1999?  
There are all kinds of genre shows that you can meet fellow fans of at
Farpoint! Our fan forums allow you to find out who else loves you
favorite show.

KLINGON JUSTICE HAS ARRIVED AT FARPOINT! Have your enemy, friend, family
member or boss arrested and put in jail, where they can be taunted
mercilessly! Photos of the event are also available!

AND YOU CAN DINE LIKE A KLINGON! Feast on gagh with KANG, the revered
hero of the glorious empire!  Saturday evening we will hold a KLINGON
FEAST with MICHAEL ANSARA.  Please check below if interested in attending.

Farpoint has two programs geared toward encouraging the spark of genius
in every fan.  The FARPOINT AMATEUR WRITING CONTEST: All ages, sexes.
races and species (including Martians living in the US, but sentients
ONLY, please!) are welcome to participate, except those of you with
professional writing credit.  THE FARPOINT AMATEUR FILM/VIDEO CONTEST
could make you the next Mike Jitlov, Langley Park Punks or Tim Burton!
For complete details write to:

Farpoint '96 Writing Contest / Film & Video Contest
2803 Falling Brook Terrace
Adelphi, MD 20783

Don't miss out! Order your memberships today!

__________________________________________________________________________

Mail to: Farpoint, Inc.  6099 Hunt Club Road, Elkridge, MD 21227

Please sign me up for (Fill in quantities, please)

_____ Adult 3-DAY Memberships ($40)

_____ Adult SATURDAY Memberships ($22)

_____ Adult SUNDAY Memberships ($18)

_____ Children's Memberships (Ages 6-12) ($15)

I am interested in:

_____ Being a helper

_____ Art Show

_____ Masquerade

_____ Speaking on a panel

_____ The Klingon Feast

_____ A Klingon Makeup Workshop

Name: ___________________________________________________________

Address: ________________________________________________________

City:______________________________State:______Zip:______________

Additional Names:

Make Checks payable to "Farpoint, Inc"  Money Orders welcome.  Sorry, we
do not accept credit cards.

We do not sell Friday memberships.  You are welcome to come Friday only
at no charge.  Major guests speak only on Saturday and Sunday.  Please be
aware: All our guests may cancel their appearance due to filming
committments.  We will make every effort to replace guests who cancel,
but memberhsips are not refundable for any reason.  You are welcome to
sell your membership to another person.  Membership does not guarantee an
autograph or a reserved seat at any event.  Entry to autograph line will
be in order of membership badge number.


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3.  GeoStanley  
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Von: geostan...@aol.com (GeoStanley)
Datum: 1996/08/06
Betreff: Re: Farpoint 1996

In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.960801105519.22344B-100...@shell1.erols.com>,

FARPOINT <sf...@erols.com> writes:
>Subject:    Farpoint 1996
>From:       FARPOINT <sf...@erols.com>
>Date:       Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:57:16 -0400
>FARPOINT 96
>The Convention Where YOU are the Guest of Honor!

<snippage of events and people>

>Make Checks payable to "Farpoint, Inc"  Money Orders welcome.  Sorry, we
>do not accept credit cards.

>We do not sell Friday memberships.  You are welcome to come Friday only
>at no charge.  Major guests speak only on Saturday and Sunday.

Thanks for the heads up. I won't be there on Friday. I didn't see any
programming for Friday listed. Why declare that there is a convention on
Friday when there is nothing planned? Additional Hotel Room nights?

> Please be aware: All our guests may cancel their appearance due to
filming
>committments.  We will make every effort to replace guests who cancel,
>but memberhsips are not refundable for any reason.

Wait a minute! I thought at the beginning you declared that *I WAS THE
GOH*. Most other cons provide at least free meals, a room, pickup at the
airport, and even the plane tickets for the GOHs. What honor are you
showing me?
Secondarily, if the "guests" don't show what's left?

>You are welcome to sell your membership to another person.

My ethics would not allow subjecting another to that which you describe.

>Membership does not guarantee an autograph or a reserved seat at any

event.
How many will be trampled in the stampede?

>Entry to autograph line will be in order of membership badge number.

That is the first idea that makes sense.

---
Let me consider this event as if I were buying a car:
I pay my money, cash or money order, prior to delivery of services which
are defined as something to nothing at your option, with no chance for
refund for failure to perform or deliver, nor to seek redress for losses.

Would _you_ buy a used car from _yourselves_ under these conditions?

Stan


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Fan Terms: Luckett's Filk  
1.  Dr Gafia  
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Craig and Julia Hilton wrote:

> The excellent series of entries by Dr Gafia on fannish language
> reminded me of an old filk song by West Australian Dave Luckett which
> is too much of a classic to let lie forgotten. Here it is in its
> entirety...

Ah, yes, from the good old days when "filk" meant a folk song about
fandom!

Lovely.

--rich brown a.k.a. DrGafia


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2.  Loren MacGregor  
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Datum: 1996/08/02
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drga...@aol.com (Dr Gafia) wrote:
>Ah, yes, from the good old days when "filk" meant a folk song about
>fandom!

Um.  Er.  Gee, wasn't John Boardman's "Asteroid Light" considered a
filk song?  Or was that considered a "real folk song" instead?

-- LJM
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3.  Chuck Connor  
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-=> Quoting churnwo...@metacentre.com to All <=-

 >Ah, yes, from the good old days when "filk" meant a folk song about
 >fandom!

 ch> Um.  Er.  Gee, wasn't John Boardman's "Asteroid Light" considered a
 ch> filk song?  Or was that considered a "real folk song" instead?

This, of course, begs the question of "are there any *fake* filk songs?"

BiBi 4 Now

ChucK

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Toner - Aug.23-26 - Las Vegas fannish con  
1.  Dr Gafia  
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Betreff: Re: Toner - Aug.23-26 - Las Vegas fannish con

In article <4tjgnv$...@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, hroth...@vcn.bc.ca

(Garth Spencer) writes:
>Also rich brown referred to "mainstream fannish fanzine
>fandom" when it is no such thing.  Fannish and fanzine fandom
>is no longer mainstream  fandom and hasn't been for, oh, what,
>twenty years?  Make it thirty.  I think that sucks, but there
>it is.

As I have said some seventy three gazillion times, Garth, I use
"mainstream" in the phrase "mainstream fannish fanzine fandom"
to refer not to fanzine fandom's size/width nor its centrality
to megafandom but to its size/length--duration.  The area of
fanzine fandom that traces its lineage and traditions back to
"The Comet," and thinks of fan history as "its" history.  

Fanzine fandom is as large as it needs to be.

--rich brown


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2.  Garth Spencer  
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Von: hroth...@vcn.bc.ca (Garth Spencer)
Datum: 1996/08/03
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Dr Gafia (drga...@aol.com) wrote:

: In article <4tjgnv$...@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, hroth...@vcn.bc.ca

: (Garth Spencer) writes:

: >Also rich brown referred to "mainstream fannish fanzine
: >fandom" when it is no such thing.  Fannish and fanzine fandom
: >is no longer mainstream  fandom and hasn't been for, oh, what,
: >twenty years?  Make it thirty.  I think that sucks, but there
: >it is.

: As I have said some seventy three gazillion times, Garth, I use
: "mainstream" in the phrase "mainstream fannish fanzine fandom"
: to refer not to fanzine fandom's size/width nor its centrality
: to megafandom but to its size/length--duration.  The area of
: fanzine fandom that traces its lineage and traditions back to
: "The Comet," and thinks of fan history as "its" history.  

The truth is not too often spoken. Now you see my nefarious plot to make
you repeat yourself until the Truth penetrates widely enough and far
enough to enlighten a critical number of neofans. And then ... and then ...!

: Fanzine fandom is as large as it needs to be.

Oooh, what a giveaway! No, seriously, I think you're right. But you and I
presume that what gives a fannish community -- one I can rarely
experience -- something worth experiencing is not something that works in
very large groups. Some people are not going to accept this gladly, if at
all ...

Garth Spencer
hroth...@vcn.bc.ca
Box 15335, Vancouver, BC  CANADA  V6B 5B1  tel (604) 321-7962

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Toner - Fannish con 1 week prior Worldcon  
1.  David E Romm  
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Datum: 1996/08/01
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In article <4tpnia$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, drga...@aol.com (Dr Gafia) wrote:
> But mainstream fanzine fandom cannot really grow beyond a
> certain point without losing the kind of interpersonal
> familiarity which makes up part of its essence--so it doesn't.

Whoop!  There we disagree.  One of the major draws of fandom is how much
at home people feel with each other, even through the print medium.  I do
think that there's a limit to the size of a group where everyone knows
everyone else.  Fanzine fandom outgrew that decades ago.  (Heck, there was
an article on Factsheet 5 on the front page of today's Variety section...)

Fanzine fandom has _already_ grown beyond that point.  The net brings us
closer to that point of interpersonal familiarity than mimeo ever could.
Yes, something's lost, but something's gained as well.
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2.  Dr Gafia  
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In article <wkg26cbxae.fsf@urth2>, rfm@urth2 ("Rich") writes:
>...I very seldom manage to send in a LoC for the fanzines I
>get -- I just never seem to get around to it. It doesn't
>bother me at all when faneds drop me from their distribution
>list for this; I know the rules, and it's their money.  But it
>did bother me that "Las Vegas fandom" was running this
>convention and apparently were so convinced that their mailing
>list -- which didn't include me -- covered everybody that
>might be interested in Toner that they asked people to *not*
>mention it here where I'd see it.

Since it didn't happen, you can stop letting it "bother" you.

Absolutely no one in Las Vegas fandom has even been *accused*
(except implicitly in your statement here) of asking people not
to mention Toner here on rec.arts.sf.fandom.  Nor is there any
indication that Las Vegas fandom believes *everybody* that
might be interested in Toner is on their mailing list; I think
they are quite aware (as you do not appear to be) that even if
they got themselves on a Web page, listed in a prozine
convention column AND got advance newspaper coverage, they
STILL would not necessarily be in contact with *everybody* who
might be interested.  That being said, it becomes a matter of
how far they want to go before they stop--_their_ call.  

As I have tried to detail elsewhere, the report that anyone in
Las Vegas fandom even went so far as to _ask_ people not to put
it on a Web page (much less r.a.sf.f.) is a figment of Gary
Farber's imagination.   The people running Toner--Tom Springer
and Ben Wilson--were _never_ contacted; Gary couldn't be
bothered with snail mail.  He contacted Arnie and Joyce Katz,
who are *supporters* of Toner and will be hosting the kick-off
party, but who don't have any official connection with the
event.  They should probably be entitled to agree with me that
perhaps a Web page might not be the way to advertise something
like Toner, but as it happens all Arnie and Joyce are "guilty"
of is a failure to be "enthusiastic" about the notion of putting
the details on a Web page.

One of the things that bothers me here with this posting of
yours, Rich, is that it represents the speedy dispatch of
totally scrambled misinformation, for which the Internet may
eventually turn out to be justly famed.  It reminds me of an
amusing parlor game:  You get, say, 15 people in a circle, each
one is given a different short phrase, which they start out
whispering to the person on their right, then listening to what
the person on their left whispers to them, then passing on what
they've just heard to the person on their right, and so on
until they've done it 14 times--and then each person in turn
says the last phrase they heard whispered, while the person
in front of them gives the phrase they started with for
comparative purposes.  More often than not, something like,
"They sent a regiment of soldiers" will come back something
like, "They wanted a shipment of boulders".

The Internet facilitates this "game" almost as if it were
specifically built for it.  It starts with Gary making no
distinction between an item posted to a news group and one
listed on a Web page (his complaint, really, was that it seemed
to be all right for Linda Bushyager and I to post the details
on r.a.sf.f., so he found it hard to fathom why putting it up
on a Web page was any different.  Even if this depiction were
the height of accuracy, in your posting it has mutated into
"Las Vegas fandom" refusing to allow it to be posted to
r.a.sf.f. (a bit late, as Linda Bushyager posted the details
and I put them here a second time for anyone who may have
missed it).  Where does it end?

BTW, if you want to blame someone who felt it was all right to
put a notice about the convention on this news group but saw a
distinct difference in putting it on a Web page, blame me.  _I_
appear to be the only person to have expressed misgivings about
posting the information to a Web page.

--rich brown a.k.a. DrGafia


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