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I upgraded my x50v to Windows Mobile 5. Big mistake. This post is for folks who made the same mistake.
For the first three days, the programs that would run ran great, however, many wouldn't work at all, and I got a lot of crashing, requiring a soft reset. This very rarely happened with 2003se.
Finally, it stopped booting at all. A screen would come up with "memory error, do a hard reset" or some such thing. Problem was, it wouldn't reset at all, but just go back to the same screen. After a few tries, it wouldn't even turn on.
Three times I removed the battery, allowed the backup battery to completely discharge, then tried to restart, with no luck.
For the heck of it, I tried it a fourth time, and it booted! After going through the annoying Cut and Paste that always follows a hard reset, I immediately hooked it up and reverted back to 2003se. Now it works great again!
I believe what happened is that the backup battery didn't completely discharge with the first three attempts, even though one of them was overnight. The specs say it's good for 30 minutes, but with the funky goings on with the OS it may have somehow consumed less power, perhaps shutting down some of the innards. Either that, or 30 minutes is an extremely conservative estimate of battery life.
I was lucky, not only with getting my computer working again, but also still having a warranty. Dell quickly sent me a replacement (refurbished, of course) so now I'll have to send it back. If yours isn't covered, or you want to avoid a refurb replacement, I suggest you remove the battery, power cord, any flash cards, let it sit for a few hours, then try to reboot using only the battery (the adapter will recharge the backup battery). Try this several times, and be ready to race to your docking station and downgrade the OS. You can download the utility from Dell's web site.
There have been a lot of people that have had problems but I think most are not having problems. I did the upgrade and had no problems, other than needing to do a few registry hacks to speed it up.
BTW, removing the battery and backup battery will not help you hard-reset a WM5 device. The biggest change to this new OS was to switch all programs and files to ROM rather than RAM. That way, if you loose all power you just plug it in and still have everything there, even if there was no power to it for a month. Yours probably reset simply because it was not booting properly and eventually figured it had to hard reset.
One of the points that can really screw up the upgrade is right after you hard reset during the installation process, you are told to NOT remove it from the cradle. I think some are, and, even worse, are going through the setup process. If you ever do the upgrade again DO NOT remove it from the cradle, even to reset, and don't go through the setup process until the upgrade is COMPLETELY redone.
Pagan wrote: > I upgraded my x50v to Windows Mobile 5. Big mistake. This post is for > folks who made the same mistake.
> For the first three days, the programs that would run ran great, however, > many wouldn't work at all, and I got a lot of crashing, requiring a soft > reset. This very rarely happened with 2003se.
> Finally, it stopped booting at all. A screen would come up with "memory > error, do a hard reset" or some such thing. Problem was, it wouldn't reset > at all, but just go back to the same screen. After a few tries, it wouldn't > even turn on.
> Three times I removed the battery, allowed the backup battery to completely > discharge, then tried to restart, with no luck.
> For the heck of it, I tried it a fourth time, and it booted! After going > through the annoying Cut and Paste that always follows a hard reset, I > immediately hooked it up and reverted back to 2003se. Now it works great > again!
> I believe what happened is that the backup battery didn't completely > discharge with the first three attempts, even though one of them was > overnight. The specs say it's good for 30 minutes, but with the funky > goings on with the OS it may have somehow consumed less power, perhaps > shutting down some of the innards. Either that, or 30 minutes is an > extremely conservative estimate of battery life.
> I was lucky, not only with getting my computer working again, but also still > having a warranty. Dell quickly sent me a replacement (refurbished, of > course) so now I'll have to send it back. If yours isn't covered, or you > want to avoid a refurb replacement, I suggest you remove the battery, power > cord, any flash cards, let it sit for a few hours, then try to reboot using > only the battery (the adapter will recharge the backup battery). Try this > several times, and be ready to race to your docking station and downgrade > the OS. You can download the utility from Dell's web site.
As one who also upgraded a x50v to WM5, I can agree with some of your post. I too struggled with this upgrade with several applications having issues. I rolled back to 2003SE and loaded up 5.0 again with much more success. I listed some things below that I did and seemed to help the upgrade process. Note that these are my observations, not necessarily supported or endorsed by Dell.
* Before upgrading, do a hard reset. Just clear it all out and start fresh * During the upgrade, leave it on A/C, even when you have to hard reset during the process * Some people - I for one - have had trouble with battery indicators in applications (such as Resco's Today Plug In and Spb Pocket Plus'). Disable them and see if that helps performance if you use a battery indicator * Disable Error Reporting
I will not as well that my original x50v did something similar to yours in that when I soft reset it, it would actually hard reset. Dell replaced my unit (refurbished as well) and this new unit performs much more reliably with Windows Mobile 5.0. It could be that your device had a flaky ROM.
As I pointed out in an editorial a few weeks ago (http://www.clintonfitch.com/editorials/112005/wm5sold/default.asp), I'm sold on Windows Mobile 5.0. Yes, it has been a rough start for some - but not all. At the end of it, this is a huge upgrade and completely changes the way your mobile device works.
>I upgraded my x50v to Windows Mobile 5. Big mistake. This post is for > folks who made the same mistake.
> For the first three days, the programs that would run ran great, however, > many wouldn't work at all, and I got a lot of crashing, requiring a soft > reset. This very rarely happened with 2003se.
> Finally, it stopped booting at all. A screen would come up with "memory > error, do a hard reset" or some such thing. Problem was, it wouldn't > reset > at all, but just go back to the same screen. After a few tries, it > wouldn't > even turn on.
> Three times I removed the battery, allowed the backup battery to > completely > discharge, then tried to restart, with no luck.
> For the heck of it, I tried it a fourth time, and it booted! After going > through the annoying Cut and Paste that always follows a hard reset, I > immediately hooked it up and reverted back to 2003se. Now it works great > again!
> I believe what happened is that the backup battery didn't completely > discharge with the first three attempts, even though one of them was > overnight. The specs say it's good for 30 minutes, but with the funky > goings on with the OS it may have somehow consumed less power, perhaps > shutting down some of the innards. Either that, or 30 minutes is an > extremely conservative estimate of battery life.
> I was lucky, not only with getting my computer working again, but also > still > having a warranty. Dell quickly sent me a replacement (refurbished, of > course) so now I'll have to send it back. If yours isn't covered, or you > want to avoid a refurb replacement, I suggest you remove the battery, > power > cord, any flash cards, let it sit for a few hours, then try to reboot > using > only the battery (the adapter will recharge the backup battery). Try this > several times, and be ready to race to your docking station and downgrade > the OS. You can download the utility from Dell's web site.
> > For the heck of it, I tried it a fourth time, and it booted! After > > going through the annoying Cut and Paste that always follows a hard > > reset,
> Ah, the mandatory moving of the dental appointment...
> Isn't it great how WM assumes you know nothing about styli and pen-driven > devices after a hard-reset... and *won't* let you skip it? Nice touch.
Even better, that you somehow 'forgot' how to do it since the last hard reset!
I'd love to meet the guy who thought that up. I am grateful that he didn't decide I needed to sit there for a half hour 'learning' how to select blocks, change the time, draw the Mona Lisa, and sing Yiddish folk songs. Must have been a Friday.
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